[waitosuneko]

waitosuneko

With contemplating with taking the first step, imagine the following hypothetical scenario:

Without taking NBE (or HRT), your body starts to grow breasts and undergo other physical feminization elsewhere. 

Would you try to do something to stop your breast growth/feminization? Or would you be very happy about getting the type of body you (secretly) prefer? 

If the second response is your answer, I think that says a lot about your desire to go down the path of feminization. Going down this path may not be easy if people in your life (especially if your family/friends/work, etc.) aren't accepting of anyone who shows the slightest sign of being gender non-conforming and/or trans. However, living your life in a way solely for the sake of others isn't satisfying either unfortunately.

It's a lot of food for thought, but my immediate reaction is the second response, in my heart. I would undoubtedly be happy getting the body I prefer. 
I thankfully don't think my whole family wouldn't accept me if I was gender non-conforming, but I do think certain members would be upset. But I'm also at a point in my life where I think I've stayed in place in all aspects. I'm way too fearful of change, and I think it's starting to affect my life negatively in all aspects. 
I think it's time to move on to the next stage.

[JannyZ]

Hello  waitosuneko ,
Nice to see new members deciding on growing breast 's or femeninization , it sure brings back memories of me years ago when I knew there was just something missing in my life .
I was brought up in a time where you would have been mentally castrated , physically harmed , or ashamed of having any thoughts of a male growing breasts and or feminizing .
It wasn't until I found this group of understanding people , from all walks of life , write about their experiences , desires and dreams that helped me understand that I was not alone in my thoughts for even thinking about changing how I felt on the inside and reveal it on the outside .
This is a big decision that you can either dive right in or just take your time , and only you can decide when it's right for you .

I started off with Fenugreek by itself with nothing else . I was surprised how much I enjoyed the stimulation and tingling in my chest . While I did not have any real breast growth from Fenugreek it still helped me decide that this was the right path for me .

Hope you come to terms with your worries of expectance by others because you are among new friends that will accept you here on Breastnexum .

JannyZ

[Shirazmn]

One point that is worth stressing:
Changes don't happen overnight. 

Actually, it takes a while before you get to a stage where others will see changes. In a few months from starting you will notice the changes, way before anyone else does. You'll see your nipples slightly more pointy and your chest a tiny bit softer and you'll think: "Oh my god, I have BOOBS!", but others will think that you gained some weight or, at worst, that you have gynecomastia. More or less at any point until you really have a feminine body (which take years), you can stop and keep changes under control.

[waitosuneko]

That's definitely true. At the very least, I can always lie and say I have a hormone imbalance if someone tries to catch on, and I won't technically be incorrect.  

[PleasantlyFascinated]

I've been a member here for 14 years.  However, I soon realized that for me, a feminine body is feminine even with almost no boobs at all.  Since no amount of HRT is going to change basic bone structure, boobs were last on my list of changes to make.  The gradual achievements I've made towards a more feminine body in those years have given me great satisfaction and balance, and have given me the time I needed to really sort out what I truly desire.  Point being, there's no need to rush things.  There's plenty you can do that is unquestionably healthy, while also advancing the pursuit of feminization.

[Heaven's Night]

I've been a member here for 14 years.  However, I soon realized that for me, a feminine body is feminine even with almost no boobs at all.  Since no amount of HRT is going to change basic bone structure, boobs were last on my list of changes to make.  The gradual achievements I've made towards a more feminine body in those years have given me great satisfaction and balance, and have given me the time I needed to really sort out what I truly desire.  Point being, there's no need to rush things.  There's plenty you can do that is unquestionably healthy, while also advancing the pursuit of feminization.

I hate to nitpick about HRT facts, but bones do indeed renew and change, but after the initial growth is done, that change is extremely slow and takes decades to become measurable. (This has been observed in some old trans women who have been on HRT for decades.) Also, all connective tissues that keep us together, skeleton included do change within approximately ten plus years. That is why some trans people get their face change a lot without surgery. There's a ton of individual difference with this once again,genetics and yadda yadda, but its a fact. Also, sexual dimorphism in skeletal structure is quite debatable, its not always clear as day obvious difference. Not everybody with activated Y chromosome has a barrel chest, insanely wide shoulders, mile wide angluar jawline and neanderthal browridge.

But you're right, boobs alone don't make femininity, but they certainly do help a lot.

[nephele]

agreed with Lara regarding the HRT stuff, a lot of what people think is "skeletal" has also to do with connective tissue, ligaments, tendons, cartilage etc. for example, the fat redistribution etc caused by estrogen will shrink the apparent size of the ribcage in many cases, although the actual ribcage's bone structure doesn't change, but it won't be pushed out that much anymore and will look shrunken because it contracts more. 

then there's stuff like changes in posture, switching from ogre mode to feminine lordosis will change your appearance a lot, make your butt more prominent, make the hips more open etc. not sure if everyone gets that with hormones or if it's something that varies, but stuff like that happens and exists.

losing body hair, or the coarse hair getting finer, will make a difference.

you'll carry your body differently than in man mode. eyes more open, posture more upright, neck less tight, jaw less clenched, lips relaxed and pouting more.

and then the mental changes. your whole demeanor will be different with estrogen, and that's a huge thing. how you speak, how you gesture, how you take others into consideration etc. it all adds up, and everything put together is so much more than just breasts.

[flamesabers]

waitosuneko-I feel your response to my question is very telling. Making yourself take the initial plunge towards NBE can be very hard, but I think the journey itself is quite rewarding. I started NBE when I was 24 or 25. None of my family said anything directly to me about my breast growth. It wasn't until I came out to my family as Alice (when I was about 37) that the objections/problems started.

JannyZ-I fully agree about how helpful/supportive this forum has been, both during my pre-transition as flamesabers and later as my transition as Alice. 

[bobyyy]

Hello, I discovered the forum a few days ago and I thought it was the right place for me, so I wanted to introduce myself.

I'm a 31 year old male (questioning). While I think I've always had a fascination with having breasts, over the past several years, the idea has festered painfully in the corner of my head at all times. I'm not sure if I'm an egg, but I've tried CD. I'm not particularly bothered with being male, but physically, I'd greatly prefer having a more feminine body and appearance. The older I get, the more I feel like if I don't start soon, I will lose the opportunity to. But I'm also scared how it'll affect my relationships, job and health, and I'm not ready to commit to HRT.

This forum feels like a godsend to me, because the knowledge and experiences available here is so extensive. At the very least, it gives me sometime to properly research and figure things out for myself. 

Right now, my goal is to be able to remain passing as male in public, but be able to enjoy my breasts and femininity in privacy. I'm starting completely from zero right now. I think my best start would be to lose weight before getting started, as I have several obesity-related health issues, and afaik they don't play well with hormone therapy. Any sort of guidance on a starting point would be appreciated. Thank you for having me.

Hi mannnn
Welcome here !
I'm kind of like you, wanting breast but staying mostly male...
If i understand well, loosing and gaining weight is a part in NBE because you can then alocate the fat in the feminine place whereas they were in male places before.
Other than that i'm very curious to see how it will turn out for you 

[waitosuneko]

Hi mannnn
Welcome here !
I'm kind of like you, wanting breast but staying mostly male...
If i understand well, loosing and gaining weight is a part in NBE because you can then alocate the fat in the feminine place whereas they were in male places before.
Other than that i'm very curious to see how it will turn out for you 

Hi! Thanks!
I'm actually pretty overweight as is; I'm trying to lose weight right now. Does that mean I should drop the excess weight first, then start a program, so that when I gain again, it'll go to the right parts?