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			<title><![CDATA[Advice for 3 years on hrt, looking for options]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2026 05:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi all! my first post here. In short, I'm mtf, and 23, and have been on various forms of hrt for around 3 years (firstly estrogen pills {starting with 4mg up to 8mg}, then an Estrogen pellet, now topical gel{4mg a day}), i've been on and off with bio-identical progesterone), and i'm super unhappy with my breast development.  I've had a look through a few threads, and am looking towards Pueraria Mirifica, but would love some advice.<br />
<br />
 I eat enough, i eat a healthy diet, (i'm a vegetarian), so im not sure what to do outside of this.<br />
<br />
Firstly. is that my best option? since im on hrt i thought maybe not. im open to everything other then things using animal products<br />
Secondly, where do I start? are there any resources online that would help me?<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi all! my first post here. In short, I'm mtf, and 23, and have been on various forms of hrt for around 3 years (firstly estrogen pills {starting with 4mg up to 8mg}, then an Estrogen pellet, now topical gel{4mg a day}), i've been on and off with bio-identical progesterone), and i'm super unhappy with my breast development.  I've had a look through a few threads, and am looking towards Pueraria Mirifica, but would love some advice.<br />
<br />
 I eat enough, i eat a healthy diet, (i'm a vegetarian), so im not sure what to do outside of this.<br />
<br />
Firstly. is that my best option? since im on hrt i thought maybe not. im open to everything other then things using animal products<br />
Secondly, where do I start? are there any resources online that would help me?<br />
<br />
also included pictures of my breasts, if that gives any ideas on how to fix.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Indie’s progress.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=34893</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2026 05:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I’ve been on using NBE methods for the past three years. I had a short stint on spiro that got me started thinking things. I started with PM at 500mg per day and worked up to 1500mg per day with 1000mg of Reishi until I developed breast buds that came in over a couple months. After budding, I reduced the PM to 1000mg. I later added topical supplements, such as estrogen and progesterone cremes. In the past year, I switched to BO instead of PM. Continuing the Reishi and cremes. I am taking a 1000mg of BO per day. I’m currently at a comfortable borderline B cup and am trying to work on filling out the breast from pyramid shape to a more round shape. That has been the biggest challenge. I’ve just started on the topical program and am hoping that adding DHEA will help. I wear slimming T shirts to flatten my chest as I’m not looking to transition at this point in my life. Without the T shirts or bulky shirts, I do have decent projection. I occasionally do wear bras for support and to suppress the projection of my breast and nipples. Depending on how things progress with the topical program, I may consider moving to an actual HRT program.<br /><!-- start: postbit_attachments_attachment -->
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I’ve been on using NBE methods for the past three years. I had a short stint on spiro that got me started thinking things. I started with PM at 500mg per day and worked up to 1500mg per day with 1000mg of Reishi until I developed breast buds that came in over a couple months. After budding, I reduced the PM to 1000mg. I later added topical supplements, such as estrogen and progesterone cremes. In the past year, I switched to BO instead of PM. Continuing the Reishi and cremes. I am taking a 1000mg of BO per day. I’m currently at a comfortable borderline B cup and am trying to work on filling out the breast from pyramid shape to a more round shape. That has been the biggest challenge. I’ve just started on the topical program and am hoping that adding DHEA will help. I wear slimming T shirts to flatten my chest as I’m not looking to transition at this point in my life. Without the T shirts or bulky shirts, I do have decent projection. I occasionally do wear bras for support and to suppress the projection of my breast and nipples. Depending on how things progress with the topical program, I may consider moving to an actual HRT program.<br /><!-- start: postbit_attachments_attachment -->
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			<title><![CDATA[Supplementing HRT with HBE]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=34718</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2026 14:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Good Day Everyone,<br />
<br />
My name is Billie, I am 60 years old and a LOOOOONG time lurker (lurker...it sounds so creepy doesn't it......let's use "vicarious learner" instead )! LOL! Anyway, I have utilized FG, PM, RC, REISHI off and on over the years and have a "little" growth.  I have used supple nips....they did bring on some decent increase in nipple size, both protrusion and circumference. Increased sensitivity a little as well, which I love, and want it to increase even more. I want to touch them all the time and my wife seems to like them as well, although she claims she does it for me and my pleasure but she does seem to enjoy it too.<br />
I just received my prescription of estradiol valerate,. 3 ml injected subQ once a week.  Took first shot on Tuesday.  It's Thursday and darnit.....no growth yet, no hips, no butt.......lol......just kidding of course.  But seriously, can the E be supplemented with herbs or PM, and if so, what works best?<br />
<br />
<br />
For transparency sake, I got my first prescription of estradiol a few months back, .3 ml injected subQ. Took 1 dose and freaked........threw it all away. Why? Because I am, and always have been a woman......known since 6 years old.  But back then, no term for it and no tolerance for it.  So I hyper masculanized......sports, military, construction.....anything and everything to battle this civil war going on inside me.  It worked a little, for a time.  Got married, had 5 kids and have 3 grands....decently successful career.  My wife of 30 years is my absolute best friend and soulmate. And when I say she adores me and I adore her, I am not being hyperbolic.  We have the kind of marriage that is almost fairy tale. We have weathered so, so much. I would like to think come hell or high water we can weather this. 2 years ago I dropped the nuclear bomb on her about my gender dysphoria and it almost ended us. I agreed to go to counseling but it did not help, although I told her it did.  I compartmentalized it, hid it. But it is RAGING INSIDE ME. I feel as if I will exlode sometimes but I CAN'T LOSE HER but I CAN'T NOT LIVE THE REST OF MY LIFE AS A WOMAN! I am not Suicidal, but I don't want to live without her and I don't want to live if I can't live as a woman. I literally do not know what to do. Here I am secretly pursuing my transition, knowing it's absolutely the wrong way to go about it, but hopeful that as she sees the small changes she will be OK with them.  I think I am deluding myself. What a conundrum I am in.  I am blissfully happy in my marriage to her but tormented by wanting to transition. <br />
<br />
Is there anyone in a similar boat, that had a positive outcome with their wife, meaning still married? How can I navigate this.....transition and still keep my beautiful soulmate? I feel very selfish and self-centered because if I do what I need to for me, I will no doubt blow her world up. <br />
<br />
HELP PLEASE!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Good Day Everyone,<br />
<br />
My name is Billie, I am 60 years old and a LOOOOONG time lurker (lurker...it sounds so creepy doesn't it......let's use "vicarious learner" instead )! LOL! Anyway, I have utilized FG, PM, RC, REISHI off and on over the years and have a "little" growth.  I have used supple nips....they did bring on some decent increase in nipple size, both protrusion and circumference. Increased sensitivity a little as well, which I love, and want it to increase even more. I want to touch them all the time and my wife seems to like them as well, although she claims she does it for me and my pleasure but she does seem to enjoy it too.<br />
I just received my prescription of estradiol valerate,. 3 ml injected subQ once a week.  Took first shot on Tuesday.  It's Thursday and darnit.....no growth yet, no hips, no butt.......lol......just kidding of course.  But seriously, can the E be supplemented with herbs or PM, and if so, what works best?<br />
<br />
<br />
For transparency sake, I got my first prescription of estradiol a few months back, .3 ml injected subQ. Took 1 dose and freaked........threw it all away. Why? Because I am, and always have been a woman......known since 6 years old.  But back then, no term for it and no tolerance for it.  So I hyper masculanized......sports, military, construction.....anything and everything to battle this civil war going on inside me.  It worked a little, for a time.  Got married, had 5 kids and have 3 grands....decently successful career.  My wife of 30 years is my absolute best friend and soulmate. And when I say she adores me and I adore her, I am not being hyperbolic.  We have the kind of marriage that is almost fairy tale. We have weathered so, so much. I would like to think come hell or high water we can weather this. 2 years ago I dropped the nuclear bomb on her about my gender dysphoria and it almost ended us. I agreed to go to counseling but it did not help, although I told her it did.  I compartmentalized it, hid it. But it is RAGING INSIDE ME. I feel as if I will exlode sometimes but I CAN'T LOSE HER but I CAN'T NOT LIVE THE REST OF MY LIFE AS A WOMAN! I am not Suicidal, but I don't want to live without her and I don't want to live if I can't live as a woman. I literally do not know what to do. Here I am secretly pursuing my transition, knowing it's absolutely the wrong way to go about it, but hopeful that as she sees the small changes she will be OK with them.  I think I am deluding myself. What a conundrum I am in.  I am blissfully happy in my marriage to her but tormented by wanting to transition. <br />
<br />
Is there anyone in a similar boat, that had a positive outcome with their wife, meaning still married? How can I navigate this.....transition and still keep my beautiful soulmate? I feel very selfish and self-centered because if I do what I need to for me, I will no doubt blow her world up. <br />
<br />
HELP PLEASE!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[New here. Just started HRT]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=34577</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 04:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I have tried BO a few times because of this site over the past few years but never really got anywhere with it. I started estridol patches 100ug changed 2x a week and nothing else. I did it for 2 weeks then decided to keep each patch on for a full week but change one every 3.5 days. Its now week 6.<br />
<br />
I didn't take any measurements to start but the effects are pretty obvious I'm a 38/43 under and over the breast. I maybe had a half inch before. Its only been 6 weeks and I did put on some holiday weight but I still can't believe it happened so fast. I plan on stopping soon because I think I reached my goal. <br />
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I tried to post photos but it would not let me. But they are now obvious under a T-shirt]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I have tried BO a few times because of this site over the past few years but never really got anywhere with it. I started estridol patches 100ug changed 2x a week and nothing else. I did it for 2 weeks then decided to keep each patch on for a full week but change one every 3.5 days. Its now week 6.<br />
<br />
I didn't take any measurements to start but the effects are pretty obvious I'm a 38/43 under and over the breast. I maybe had a half inch before. Its only been 6 weeks and I did put on some holiday weight but I still can't believe it happened so fast. I plan on stopping soon because I think I reached my goal. <br />
<br />
I tried to post photos but it would not let me. But they are now obvious under a T-shirt]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Annie's Dreams on HRT: Long time lurker, first time poster]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=34219</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2025 17:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello, all!<br />
<br />
I'm Annie, a 42 year old transfem from Nashville, USA!  Five or six years ago, I found myself here and was blown away by the science and efforts, and it lead to me starting to scratch my itch.  As many here have found, what started out as a desire to grow breasts (let's be real -- my egg was already ready to shatter at this point), led to a full-on life epiphany when I was prescribed Spiro for a different health issue.  I noticed I was feeling much happier...and having sore nipples.  A Google search on Spiro blew the door open and confirmed what I'd known/toyed with for years -- I wasn't supposed to be male.<br />
<br />
The nitty gritty:<br />
-I messed with bi-est starting in 2021-2022<br />
-I started prescribed estrogen (HRT) in 11/22<br />
-I added Spiro back around mid 2023<br />
-I supplemented with Prog cream for 2023-2025<br />
-I finally got Prog prescribed 10/25<br />
<br />
Up to now:<br />
-I've seen very solid growth (I'm a 40DDD/42DD)<br />
-I've gained a lot of weight (around 70 pounds -- some from E, some from my marriage falling apart when I came out)<br />
-I am definitely carrying more in my hips/butt<br />
-I struggle with posture; I feel like I should be sticking my butt out more to balance -- but can't exactly describe it<br />
-I'm on two bi-weekly estrogen patches (.1 mg), and I leave them on for a week (just to get everything out of them, so I have four patches on at all times)<br />
-I'm on 100mg of Prog, but will be going to 200 my next appointment<br />
<br />
Next:<br />
-I'm looking to continue any and all feminization; open to trying anything<br />
-I need to start working out and eating better (hoping for some tips that still support feminization!)<br />
-I want to focus on growing my breasts, especially through any weight loss, and hope to avoid top surgery.<br />
<br />
So...there's so much here I'm overwhelmed, but I know the Topical Protocol seems to be of top of mind importance.  I would love some thoughts on if it's something that can just go right on top of my current HRT (I think so)...or if there's more to it.<br />
<br />
This is an example I pulled from the goddess Heaven's Night:<br />
DHEA micronised powder 100mg (Four 25mg capsules empties.)<br />
Estradiol hemihydrate gel 2mg every other day, alternating with progesterone<br />
Volufiline (100%) oil 5 drops<br />
Bovine Ovary powder in Cayenne extract, 10 drops on areolas<br />
Red Clover extract 10 drops on areaolas<br />
Vitamin D3 oil 20000iu<br />
Progesterone 400mg every other day. <br />
Split 200mg boofed, 200mg topical, emptied capsule with what's left, orally<br />
<br />
My questions:<br />
DHEA: I suppose I just buy from Amazon in pill form?<br />
Estradiol: I'm guessing I can skip this due to HRT?<br />
Volufiline: Amazon again? Does a "serum" work?<br />
BO: Is this the same as ovarian glandular?  How much do I put in the Cayenne extract?<br />
RC: No questions<br />
D3: No questions<br />
Progesterone: I'll be on 200 soon -- should I boof it?  Do I do a topical cream in addition?  Any suggestions on what to buy if so?<br />
Overall: I assume just mix it all together, apply to boobs, put the rest on hips and butt?<br />
<br />
Okay....whew!  Let me know what I missed on the protocol and any other kind words, and thank all of you (especially Lotus and Heaven's Night) for all that all of you do.  The community is incredible, as are the results, and you've inspired me from afar for years!<br />
<br />
Boobs below (clothed, I'm shy), and my best attempt at being pretty.  <img src="https://www.breastnexum.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /><br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello, all!<br />
<br />
I'm Annie, a 42 year old transfem from Nashville, USA!  Five or six years ago, I found myself here and was blown away by the science and efforts, and it lead to me starting to scratch my itch.  As many here have found, what started out as a desire to grow breasts (let's be real -- my egg was already ready to shatter at this point), led to a full-on life epiphany when I was prescribed Spiro for a different health issue.  I noticed I was feeling much happier...and having sore nipples.  A Google search on Spiro blew the door open and confirmed what I'd known/toyed with for years -- I wasn't supposed to be male.<br />
<br />
The nitty gritty:<br />
-I messed with bi-est starting in 2021-2022<br />
-I started prescribed estrogen (HRT) in 11/22<br />
-I added Spiro back around mid 2023<br />
-I supplemented with Prog cream for 2023-2025<br />
-I finally got Prog prescribed 10/25<br />
<br />
Up to now:<br />
-I've seen very solid growth (I'm a 40DDD/42DD)<br />
-I've gained a lot of weight (around 70 pounds -- some from E, some from my marriage falling apart when I came out)<br />
-I am definitely carrying more in my hips/butt<br />
-I struggle with posture; I feel like I should be sticking my butt out more to balance -- but can't exactly describe it<br />
-I'm on two bi-weekly estrogen patches (.1 mg), and I leave them on for a week (just to get everything out of them, so I have four patches on at all times)<br />
-I'm on 100mg of Prog, but will be going to 200 my next appointment<br />
<br />
Next:<br />
-I'm looking to continue any and all feminization; open to trying anything<br />
-I need to start working out and eating better (hoping for some tips that still support feminization!)<br />
-I want to focus on growing my breasts, especially through any weight loss, and hope to avoid top surgery.<br />
<br />
So...there's so much here I'm overwhelmed, but I know the Topical Protocol seems to be of top of mind importance.  I would love some thoughts on if it's something that can just go right on top of my current HRT (I think so)...or if there's more to it.<br />
<br />
This is an example I pulled from the goddess Heaven's Night:<br />
DHEA micronised powder 100mg (Four 25mg capsules empties.)<br />
Estradiol hemihydrate gel 2mg every other day, alternating with progesterone<br />
Volufiline (100%) oil 5 drops<br />
Bovine Ovary powder in Cayenne extract, 10 drops on areolas<br />
Red Clover extract 10 drops on areaolas<br />
Vitamin D3 oil 20000iu<br />
Progesterone 400mg every other day. <br />
Split 200mg boofed, 200mg topical, emptied capsule with what's left, orally<br />
<br />
My questions:<br />
DHEA: I suppose I just buy from Amazon in pill form?<br />
Estradiol: I'm guessing I can skip this due to HRT?<br />
Volufiline: Amazon again? Does a "serum" work?<br />
BO: Is this the same as ovarian glandular?  How much do I put in the Cayenne extract?<br />
RC: No questions<br />
D3: No questions<br />
Progesterone: I'll be on 200 soon -- should I boof it?  Do I do a topical cream in addition?  Any suggestions on what to buy if so?<br />
Overall: I assume just mix it all together, apply to boobs, put the rest on hips and butt?<br />
<br />
Okay....whew!  Let me know what I missed on the protocol and any other kind words, and thank all of you (especially Lotus and Heaven's Night) for all that all of you do.  The community is incredible, as are the results, and you've inspired me from afar for years!<br />
<br />
Boobs below (clothed, I'm shy), and my best attempt at being pretty.  <img src="https://www.breastnexum.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /><br />
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With love,<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[De facto HRTing... and lovin' it!]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=33703</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2025 21:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Dear Breast Nexum folks-<br />
<br />
Here I am, having restarted a fantastic supplement for menopausal women (sold in Italy) that contains the following: <br />
<br />
Red clover <br />
Kudzu<br />
Wild Yam<br />
Dong Quai<br />
Verbena<br />
<br />
Marketed as "strong", all of these principles come in one pill. <br />
<br />
Even at half dose a day (one pill), I am feeling in heaven! Eyes are less dry, I am more calm and focused... Just like a woman in menopause, this supplement is acting on my female nature, restoring my normal biology. I do believe, after all, that a big part of it is fundamentally that of a woman. <br />
<br />
Somebody may say it's all mental, but even so... SO BE IT!<br />
<br />
I am really, really happy! Never been so happy my whole life!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Dear Breast Nexum folks-<br />
<br />
Here I am, having restarted a fantastic supplement for menopausal women (sold in Italy) that contains the following: <br />
<br />
Red clover <br />
Kudzu<br />
Wild Yam<br />
Dong Quai<br />
Verbena<br />
<br />
Marketed as "strong", all of these principles come in one pill. <br />
<br />
Even at half dose a day (one pill), I am feeling in heaven! Eyes are less dry, I am more calm and focused... Just like a woman in menopause, this supplement is acting on my female nature, restoring my normal biology. I do believe, after all, that a big part of it is fundamentally that of a woman. <br />
<br />
Somebody may say it's all mental, but even so... SO BE IT!<br />
<br />
I am really, really happy! Never been so happy my whole life!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Have breasts and starting HRT questions.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=32588</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2025 14:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Thanks to NBE I have already budded and have small B cups. Next week I start HRT and I'm curious what those of you that been in the same situation experienced. My biggest questions are how soon did you see growth and what kind of growth did you see?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks to NBE I have already budded and have small B cups. Next week I start HRT and I'm curious what those of you that been in the same situation experienced. My biggest questions are how soon did you see growth and what kind of growth did you see?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Diane's HRT Journey]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=32531</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 09:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello lovely ladies/gents!<br />
<br />
Making this thread as a personal progress log as well as keeping myself honest on writing down changes to my regiment.<br />
<br />
I've been on HRT for about 7-8 months (EV injections, values at bottom of post), while I have gotten some pretty decent results I am trying to do the best I can with what I have available. I am using some minor NBE techniques/supplements, but planning on ramping up these in the coming months.<br />
Before HRT I did have some minor gyno, probably would have fit a B cup then, but for obvious reasons, I wasn't exactly measuring in those years, but I imagine that has some effect on my current measurements.<br />
<br />
Currently, I am consistently measuring 44 in. underbust and 49-50 in. bust (although, my measurements could be off by an inch or 2 as I am not a tailor), doesn't look like much with such a wide torso but I am happy with it as a starting point.<br />
An open question for me is what tanner stage I am in, I don't trust myself to make that assessment, so I have attached current photos if anyone would like to chime in from their own knowledge. (pls ignore the weight, 70lbs down but I know I still have a ways to go)<br />
<br />
I am looking forward to chronicling my journey here, and hoping to satisfy some of my boob greed in the process!<br />
Listing my current regiment below, if anyone knows any optimizations that could be made I'd love to know! I am planning on changing things, but until then below is current for me.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">HRT & NBE Info</span></span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">HRT</span></span><br />
EV Injections - ~4mg every 7 days - Levels seem consistent, my body hates T so don't seem to need an anti-androgen.<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">NBE Supplements</span></span><br />
MSM - 1000 mg ~every day<br />
Magnesium Citrate - 500 mg ~every day<br />
Green Tea Extract - 400mg ~every day<br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Misc Supplements</span></span><br />
Creatine - ~5g ~every day<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">NBE Actions(?)</span></span><br />
Breast Pumping - ~2 hours of pumping ~every day - Don't currently have pressure gauges for this, so, kind of just winging the amount of pressure on vibes<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello lovely ladies/gents!<br />
<br />
Making this thread as a personal progress log as well as keeping myself honest on writing down changes to my regiment.<br />
<br />
I've been on HRT for about 7-8 months (EV injections, values at bottom of post), while I have gotten some pretty decent results I am trying to do the best I can with what I have available. I am using some minor NBE techniques/supplements, but planning on ramping up these in the coming months.<br />
Before HRT I did have some minor gyno, probably would have fit a B cup then, but for obvious reasons, I wasn't exactly measuring in those years, but I imagine that has some effect on my current measurements.<br />
<br />
Currently, I am consistently measuring 44 in. underbust and 49-50 in. bust (although, my measurements could be off by an inch or 2 as I am not a tailor), doesn't look like much with such a wide torso but I am happy with it as a starting point.<br />
An open question for me is what tanner stage I am in, I don't trust myself to make that assessment, so I have attached current photos if anyone would like to chime in from their own knowledge. (pls ignore the weight, 70lbs down but I know I still have a ways to go)<br />
<br />
I am looking forward to chronicling my journey here, and hoping to satisfy some of my boob greed in the process!<br />
Listing my current regiment below, if anyone knows any optimizations that could be made I'd love to know! I am planning on changing things, but until then below is current for me.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">HRT & NBE Info</span></span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">HRT</span></span><br />
EV Injections - ~4mg every 7 days - Levels seem consistent, my body hates T so don't seem to need an anti-androgen.<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">NBE Supplements</span></span><br />
MSM - 1000 mg ~every day<br />
Magnesium Citrate - 500 mg ~every day<br />
Green Tea Extract - 400mg ~every day<br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Misc Supplements</span></span><br />
Creatine - ~5g ~every day<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">NBE Actions(?)</span></span><br />
Breast Pumping - ~2 hours of pumping ~every day - Don't currently have pressure gauges for this, so, kind of just winging the amount of pressure on vibes<br />
Rudimentary Strength Training - Weight lifting roughly every other day - Not necessarily NBE related, but have heard it helps release some growth factors which may help the girls!<br /><!-- start: postbit_attachments_attachment -->
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			<title><![CDATA[CM213's HRT journey]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=32177</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Nov 2024 19:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.breastnexum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=35511">CM213</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Took my first dose of Spiro today. Per Endo I'm supposed to take half a pill twice a day for a week and then move up to a full pill twice day from there on out. I am not sure if I will also start estrogen this week or if I will just run Spiro and nbe for a few weeks to see how I tolerate it. <br />
<br />
Endo said by no means do I have to start both at the same time, that I can start Spiro first and add in estrogen at a later date. <br />
<br />
When I do start estrogen I'm supposed to do 10mg of ev every other week, which I know is low, but I'm just starting and low and slow is the way they do it. If after 6 months I'm still on the same doses I'll be looking for a new endocrinologist lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Took my first dose of Spiro today. Per Endo I'm supposed to take half a pill twice a day for a week and then move up to a full pill twice day from there on out. I am not sure if I will also start estrogen this week or if I will just run Spiro and nbe for a few weeks to see how I tolerate it. <br />
<br />
Endo said by no means do I have to start both at the same time, that I can start Spiro first and add in estrogen at a later date. <br />
<br />
When I do start estrogen I'm supposed to do 10mg of ev every other week, which I know is low, but I'm just starting and low and slow is the way they do it. If after 6 months I'm still on the same doses I'll be looking for a new endocrinologist lol]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[HRT Appointment Confirmed]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=32163</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2024 18:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.breastnexum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=30152">Lancer</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I guess you can say that I was given permission by my sister to make an appointment to see a doctor for setting up an HRT program.<br />
<br />
The appointment is at a Planned Parenthood facility on November 13, located only a 45 minute drive away from where i live.<br />
<br />
I was able to convince my sister, even though she was against it because of what can happen to me from other people further down the line.<br />
<br />
I told her that I feel the bullying I experienced in my childhood only prepared me for this very moment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I guess you can say that I was given permission by my sister to make an appointment to see a doctor for setting up an HRT program.<br />
<br />
The appointment is at a Planned Parenthood facility on November 13, located only a 45 minute drive away from where i live.<br />
<br />
I was able to convince my sister, even though she was against it because of what can happen to me from other people further down the line.<br />
<br />
I told her that I feel the bullying I experienced in my childhood only prepared me for this very moment.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[New Program]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=32052</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2024 00:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.breastnexum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=33529">tomi66</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[When I started NBE I was just looking to enhance my breasts and look better in my dresses, skirts and other pretty outfits, also to match how I feel. <br />
<br />
Over the past 2 years I have been on a BO program, I am very happy with the results, I even posted a couple of pictures of how my figure has changed, taking on a more feminine look.<br />
<br />
After much thought and weighing the pros and cons, I decided to cut out BO, at least for the next 3 to 6 months, maybe for good, IDK.<br />
<br />
Yesterday I started on 2mg of estradiol 2 times a day,  sublingual and one 0.5 mg dutasteride once a day, under a doctors care of course. It seems like a nice low dose and will slowly finish up the changes I strive for, however probably much quicker than BO.<br />
<br />
I figured if I was going to be taking BO for extended period of time without a doctors care it would be better to try HRT under a doctors care. Fortunately insurance covers most of the cost minus copay.<br />
<br />
My body is already halfway there I might as well fine tune it  <img src="https://www.breastnexum.com/images/smilies/blush.gif" alt="Blush" title="Blush" class="smilie smilie_12" /> . I believe my workout routine and diet will become more important now, I feel HRT may make weight gain easier than BO.<br />
<br />
Wish me luck. Or shun me. Whichever makes you feel better. I just thought I would share this with the group.<br />
<img src="https://www.breastnexum.com/images/smilies/heart.gif" alt="Heart" title="Heart" class="smilie smilie_16" />  <img src="https://www.breastnexum.com/images/smilies/heart.gif" alt="Heart" title="Heart" class="smilie smilie_16" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[When I started NBE I was just looking to enhance my breasts and look better in my dresses, skirts and other pretty outfits, also to match how I feel. <br />
<br />
Over the past 2 years I have been on a BO program, I am very happy with the results, I even posted a couple of pictures of how my figure has changed, taking on a more feminine look.<br />
<br />
After much thought and weighing the pros and cons, I decided to cut out BO, at least for the next 3 to 6 months, maybe for good, IDK.<br />
<br />
Yesterday I started on 2mg of estradiol 2 times a day,  sublingual and one 0.5 mg dutasteride once a day, under a doctors care of course. It seems like a nice low dose and will slowly finish up the changes I strive for, however probably much quicker than BO.<br />
<br />
I figured if I was going to be taking BO for extended period of time without a doctors care it would be better to try HRT under a doctors care. Fortunately insurance covers most of the cost minus copay.<br />
<br />
My body is already halfway there I might as well fine tune it  <img src="https://www.breastnexum.com/images/smilies/blush.gif" alt="Blush" title="Blush" class="smilie smilie_12" /> . I believe my workout routine and diet will become more important now, I feel HRT may make weight gain easier than BO.<br />
<br />
Wish me luck. Or shun me. Whichever makes you feel better. I just thought I would share this with the group.<br />
<img src="https://www.breastnexum.com/images/smilies/heart.gif" alt="Heart" title="Heart" class="smilie smilie_16" />  <img src="https://www.breastnexum.com/images/smilies/heart.gif" alt="Heart" title="Heart" class="smilie smilie_16" />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[HRT and PM Question]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=32022</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2024 21:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'm on 2mg of estradiol daily.  I have 2 tubes of Ainterol Breast Cream.  If I use that:<br />
<br />
1.  Will it help the growth process if rubbed on chest<br />
2.  Can I mix the two.  <br />
3.  Can the cream cause cloths like the pills have for a few pp.<br />
<br />
Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm on 2mg of estradiol daily.  I have 2 tubes of Ainterol Breast Cream.  If I use that:<br />
<br />
1.  Will it help the growth process if rubbed on chest<br />
2.  Can I mix the two.  <br />
3.  Can the cream cause cloths like the pills have for a few pp.<br />
<br />
Thanks]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[HRT regime (way overdue) update!]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=31956</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi all,<br />
A very long overdue update from me.<br />
I started put way back on PM and all the usual herbs with the goals of:<br />
- B (C max) feminine shaped breasts<br />
- Female sized & shaped nipples and areolas<br />
- male staying male<br />
By early 22 I had essentially achieved a half-decent B cup sized breasts, with marginal increases in areolas and nipples, so was really happy with progress so far. <br />
However, it dawned on me that my overall body proportions didn't look right, and realised I needed curves on the lower half to match the top half. As such I re-evaluated what I was doing and decided the best way forward was to go on HRT, with the added aims:<br />
- Feminine shaped & filled out B (C max) breasts<br />
- Feminine shaped butt/thighs and tummy (need to loose weight)<br />
Regime started out<br />
- Prognovya 2mg > 4mg /day<br />
- Fin 1mg/day then switched to Duta 5mg/day<br />
<br />
<br />
Over the two years I've tweaked my regime and in the last few months have add:<br />
- Prog cream 2xpumps/breasts/day - alternating breasts/hips/thighs/scrotum etc<br />
- Dropped DTa and replaced with RR 2xcaps/day<br />
- DHEA 1xcap / day<br />
- NIACIN 1xcap/day (taking this for general health benefits)<br />
- 2-cups of green tea with ginger & honey/day<br />
Unfortunately, I'm not one for measuring every month, but can certainly say that since adding the prog & DHEA my breasts have definitely started to fill out in the upper/inside areas.<br />
Also starting to get a more fem curved shape to my hips and thighs, and my butt has definitely gained some pounds as I now have quite a butt overhang. LOL<br />
Still struggling to loose the belly fat, but will keep on trying and will definitely get there.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Loved what HRT was doing to my body, all the usual changes, smooth skin, scalp hair regrowth, body hair loss, zero man scent, far BETTER and BIGGER orgasms, and what has surprised me, more energy, better concentration levels and a feeling of being 10-years or so younger. All good stuff.</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Yes, I have had the downsides, some atrophy, harder to perform and get there etc, but it all still works, so nothing to really complain about there.</span></span></span><br />
<br />
Unfortunately, I'm now finding UK banks wont deal with Vannu where I get my prognovya from, so now have ordered some Eostrogel from a UK source, so once my E runs out I'll try the gel.<br />
<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi all,<br />
A very long overdue update from me.<br />
I started put way back on PM and all the usual herbs with the goals of:<br />
- B (C max) feminine shaped breasts<br />
- Female sized & shaped nipples and areolas<br />
- male staying male<br />
By early 22 I had essentially achieved a half-decent B cup sized breasts, with marginal increases in areolas and nipples, so was really happy with progress so far. <br />
However, it dawned on me that my overall body proportions didn't look right, and realised I needed curves on the lower half to match the top half. As such I re-evaluated what I was doing and decided the best way forward was to go on HRT, with the added aims:<br />
- Feminine shaped & filled out B (C max) breasts<br />
- Feminine shaped butt/thighs and tummy (need to loose weight)<br />
Regime started out<br />
- Prognovya 2mg > 4mg /day<br />
- Fin 1mg/day then switched to Duta 5mg/day<br />
<br />
<br />
Over the two years I've tweaked my regime and in the last few months have add:<br />
- Prog cream 2xpumps/breasts/day - alternating breasts/hips/thighs/scrotum etc<br />
- Dropped DTa and replaced with RR 2xcaps/day<br />
- DHEA 1xcap / day<br />
- NIACIN 1xcap/day (taking this for general health benefits)<br />
- 2-cups of green tea with ginger & honey/day<br />
Unfortunately, I'm not one for measuring every month, but can certainly say that since adding the prog & DHEA my breasts have definitely started to fill out in the upper/inside areas.<br />
Also starting to get a more fem curved shape to my hips and thighs, and my butt has definitely gained some pounds as I now have quite a butt overhang. LOL<br />
Still struggling to loose the belly fat, but will keep on trying and will definitely get there.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Loved what HRT was doing to my body, all the usual changes, smooth skin, scalp hair regrowth, body hair loss, zero man scent, far BETTER and BIGGER orgasms, and what has surprised me, more energy, better concentration levels and a feeling of being 10-years or so younger. All good stuff.</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Yes, I have had the downsides, some atrophy, harder to perform and get there etc, but it all still works, so nothing to really complain about there.</span></span></span><br />
<br />
Unfortunately, I'm now finding UK banks wont deal with Vannu where I get my prognovya from, so now have ordered some Eostrogel from a UK source, so once my E runs out I'll try the gel.<br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[HRT Flat 2 Fem plan: is it worth it?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=31887</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2024 12:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello every one, <br />
<br />
I am planning on improving my already natural 38B boobs with HRT.  I came across the flat2fem (dot) com program.<br />
<br />
Anyone has already tried it?<br />
<br />
While I am waiting for my PM, I am taking the following daily plan based on their recommendations:<br />
<br />
2x Fenugreek caps (2x 610 mg from the Vitamin Shoppe)<br />
2x Red Clover caps (2x 430 mg, same store)<br />
1x Saw Palmetto (320 mg, same store)<br />
<br />
I plan on adding Progest cream after 2 weeoks into the program. <br />
<br />
Any comment? Has anyone tried it already?<br />
<br />
Thanks a lot for your answers. I'll try to keep you updated about the progress.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello every one, <br />
<br />
I am planning on improving my already natural 38B boobs with HRT.  I came across the flat2fem (dot) com program.<br />
<br />
Anyone has already tried it?<br />
<br />
While I am waiting for my PM, I am taking the following daily plan based on their recommendations:<br />
<br />
2x Fenugreek caps (2x 610 mg from the Vitamin Shoppe)<br />
2x Red Clover caps (2x 430 mg, same store)<br />
1x Saw Palmetto (320 mg, same store)<br />
<br />
I plan on adding Progest cream after 2 weeoks into the program. <br />
<br />
Any comment? Has anyone tried it already?<br />
<br />
Thanks a lot for your answers. I'll try to keep you updated about the progress.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Glandular assisted HRT regimes]]></title>
			<link>https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=31886</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jun 2024 18:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Hi all,</span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Interesting to read up on our ever lovely Lotus and her new notes about glandular adding to HRT so thought it might be a good idea to see who else is on HRT & glandular, so that we can compare regimes, desired outcomes and discuss possible tweaks or additions that may help.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">How I got here - I was originally on PM and supplements but wanted to promote more all over body feminisation, basically I reached my breast growth target of B-cup and on seeing the curves I realised that I wanted the bottom curves to match the top.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">This initially took me to BO, which interested me for the body feminisation aspects, but trying to get hold of it in the UK at the time was mega difficult, which left me looking at HRT.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">However, as I'm a male staying male, I knew that HRT was a BIG step and something not to done lightly, but after a lot of further research I concluded that realistically it was the only way of achieving matching top & bottom half curves.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">So I took the plunge, started on HRT and was really pleased with how it started to add some lower curves, that took me to about 12-months, but BO and glandular was still on my 'do more research' list. The idea initially being to swap out HRT for BO & glandular, but then switched doing both.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Without re-iterating all the pro's cons of BO/glandular here, I chatted to a couple of others who are on HRT & glandular and so decided to try it for a minimum of 3-months.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">So my initial HRT regime was:</span><br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">2mg (upped to 4mg)/day of <span style="color: #666666;" class="mycode_color">Oestradiol valerate </span>(Progynova) - sublingual</span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">2mg Finasteride (swapped to 5mg Dutasteride)/day - sublingual</span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">With the usual supplement mix of Vitamins, etc</span><br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">As I wasn't too happy being on Duta long term, even though it significantly reduced my bald patch, after first checking that I wasn't allergic to it, I swapped to RR</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">HRT regime post 12-months:</span><br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">2mg (upped to 4mg)/day of</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"> </span></span><span style="color: #666666;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Oestradiol valerate </span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">(</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Progyno</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">v</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">a</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">)</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"> - sublingual</span></span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">500mg (upped to 1500mg)/day RR - rectal (dissolved in water)</span></span></span><br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Added a couple of months ago:</span></span></span><br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">500mg (upped to 1500mg)day  Swanson Ovarian glandular - <span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">rectal (</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">dissolved in water)</span></span></span></span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">80mg (upped to 240mg)/day Swanson Pituitary glandular - <span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">rectal (</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">dissolved in water)</span></span></span></span></span><br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Added last month</span></span></span></span></span><br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">2xpumps/day Progesterone cream - rotated application thighs, scrotum, breast, forearms and as part of my skin care routine every night on my face.</span></span></span></span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">2~3 cups/day green tea (with a thumb size of ginger thrown in) </span><br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Supplements:</span></span></span></span></span><br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">VitD 10,000 every 3rd day</span></span></span></span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">VitC every other day</span></span></span></span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">500mg/day Niacin (possibly improves immune system, blood pressure, skin, brain & blood fats)</span></span></span></span></span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">coconut oil (applied to my eczema)</span></span></span></span></span><br />
</li>
</ul>
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Very happy with current progress, breasts are filling out (a bit too) noticeably! Lower half fat redistribution is shifting to my butt and partially to my hips, belly fat certainly feels less when wearing my leggings / skinny jeans etc. Head hair still growing, as in my bald patch has not returned. Lovely soft skin everywhere, apart from my usual allergy induced eczema!</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Not so happy with but expected - a bit of atrophy of my manhood- shaft and balls and much lazier erections, but the flipside that totally negates this is the all over body orgasms <img src="https://www.breastnexum.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /> WOW</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Considering further tweaks/additions</span><ul class="mycode_list"><li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">upping E to 6mg/day - sublingual</span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">extending my BO & PG trial to 6-months or more likely committing to a 12-month trial</span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">DHEA - Swanson 100mg/day - oral (lots of good health benefits)</span><br />
</li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">More butt/thigh/legs/tums exercises to help fat redistribution and lower half curves</span><br />
</li>
</ul>
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">I didn't want to add an image to this post as its about regimes, but will create a progress post elsewhere once I've taken a decent enough image.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">In conclusion, I think that this is not too bad a glandular assisted HRT regime as I am overall happy with the results I'm getting, </span><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">so over to anyone else who wants to add their glandular assisted HRT regimes and or suggestion / related experiences.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Hope that all makes sense and is of interest.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Wee2er</span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Hi all,</span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Interesting to read up on our ever lovely Lotus and her new notes about glandular adding to HRT so thought it might be a good idea to see who else is on HRT & glandular, so that we can compare regimes, desired outcomes and discuss possible tweaks or additions that may help.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">How I got here - I was originally on PM and supplements but wanted to promote more all over body feminisation, basically I reached my breast growth target of B-cup and on seeing the curves I realised that I wanted the bottom curves to match the top.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">This initially took me to BO, which interested me for the body feminisation aspects, but trying to get hold of it in the UK at the time was mega difficult, which left me looking at HRT.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">However, as I'm a male staying male, I knew that HRT was a BIG step and something not to done lightly, but after a lot of further research I concluded that realistically it was the only way of achieving matching top & bottom half curves.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">So I took the plunge, started on HRT and was really pleased with how it started to add some lower curves, that took me to about 12-months, but BO and glandular was still on my 'do more research' list. The idea initially being to swap out HRT for BO & glandular, but then switched doing both.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Without re-iterating all the pro's cons of BO/glandular here, I chatted to a couple of others who are on HRT & glandular and so decided to try it for a minimum of 3-months.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">So my initial HRT regime was:</span><br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">2mg (upped to 4mg)/day of <span style="color: #666666;" class="mycode_color">Oestradiol valerate </span>(Progynova) - sublingual</span><br />
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<li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">2mg Finasteride (swapped to 5mg Dutasteride)/day - sublingual</span><br />
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<li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">With the usual supplement mix of Vitamins, etc</span><br />
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</ul>
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<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">As I wasn't too happy being on Duta long term, even though it significantly reduced my bald patch, after first checking that I wasn't allergic to it, I swapped to RR</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">HRT regime post 12-months:</span><br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">2mg (upped to 4mg)/day of</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"> </span></span><span style="color: #666666;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Oestradiol valerate </span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">(</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Progyno</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">v</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">a</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">)</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"> - sublingual</span></span></span><br />
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<li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">500mg (upped to 1500mg)/day RR - rectal (dissolved in water)</span></span></span><br />
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</ul>
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<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Added a couple of months ago:</span></span></span><br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">500mg (upped to 1500mg)day  Swanson Ovarian glandular - <span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">rectal (</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">dissolved in water)</span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">80mg (upped to 240mg)/day Swanson Pituitary glandular - <span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">rectal (</span></span><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">dissolved in water)</span></span></span></span></span><br />
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</ul>
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<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Added last month</span></span></span></span></span><br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">2xpumps/day Progesterone cream - rotated application thighs, scrotum, breast, forearms and as part of my skin care routine every night on my face.</span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">2~3 cups/day green tea (with a thumb size of ginger thrown in) </span><br />
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</ul>
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<span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Supplements:</span></span></span></span></span><br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">VitD 10,000 every 3rd day</span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">VitC every other day</span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">500mg/day Niacin (possibly improves immune system, blood pressure, skin, brain & blood fats)</span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<li><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="color: #333333;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">coconut oil (applied to my eczema)</span></span></span></span></span><br />
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</ul>
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Very happy with current progress, breasts are filling out (a bit too) noticeably! Lower half fat redistribution is shifting to my butt and partially to my hips, belly fat certainly feels less when wearing my leggings / skinny jeans etc. Head hair still growing, as in my bald patch has not returned. Lovely soft skin everywhere, apart from my usual allergy induced eczema!</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Not so happy with but expected - a bit of atrophy of my manhood- shaft and balls and much lazier erections, but the flipside that totally negates this is the all over body orgasms <img src="https://www.breastnexum.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /> WOW</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Considering further tweaks/additions</span><ul class="mycode_list"><li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">upping E to 6mg/day - sublingual</span><br />
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<li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">extending my BO & PG trial to 6-months or more likely committing to a 12-month trial</span><br />
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<li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">DHEA - Swanson 100mg/day - oral (lots of good health benefits)</span><br />
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<li><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">More butt/thigh/legs/tums exercises to help fat redistribution and lower half curves</span><br />
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</ul>
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">I didn't want to add an image to this post as its about regimes, but will create a progress post elsewhere once I've taken a decent enough image.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">In conclusion, I think that this is not too bad a glandular assisted HRT regime as I am overall happy with the results I'm getting, </span><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">so over to anyone else who wants to add their glandular assisted HRT regimes and or suggestion / related experiences.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Hope that all makes sense and is of interest.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size">Wee2er</span>]]></content:encoded>
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