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My new program (and some help needed)

Mon, 06 Apr 2026 18:29:30 +0000

Hi !!!

I d'ont know if you remembered me but i tried natureday's product for NBE. Needless to say it was a huge disapointment.
Anyway.
I want to start over with a new program which is easier and more reliable.

I saw that lavender oil can do just fine. So i want to do the following :
1x/day --> PM
2x/day --> progesterone cream + lavender oil.

The thing is i don't know where to buy these product and wich concentration is best.

Ainterol has lots of PM but don't know which one is better (normal PM, G1, other ?).
Also, regarding progresterone cream, where can i find a good one in EU ? (Amazon is useless for that).

Thanks in advance !
I will do edits for the help i get and if i start the program.

Graceful's Album: Feminizing My Body for Health and Happiness!

Wed, 25 Mar 2026 19:20:16 +0000

Spring is here--time for renewal and new beginnings! I am starting a new thread because my old ones are obsolete--I now have more experience, more progress, better photographs, and more interesting things to share with you.

Background: I started about 4 years ago, rubbing lavender oil on my chest, because I read articles stating that boys were doing this and growing breasts (often unintentionally). I then discovered BN, and began using fenugreek and pueraria mirifica as well. After a few weeks or months, I started noticing typical feminine changes: I had small breasts (I had been flat-chested previously), much softer skin, a change in body odor, and increased libido. I also started gaining weight for the first time in my adult life. A landmark moment was one day I looked in the mirror and said, "Wow, I have bikini curves!" I bought a bikini, put it on, and except for a little bulge, I looked just like a hot chick! It was then that I knew I was on to something.

I read on BN that bio-identical estrogen is better than phytoestrogens, so I switched to using estrogen and progesterone creams every day. My progress has been rather slow but significant. In late October 2025, I started on BO (bovine ovary). I think it gave my development a little boost, but it wasn't the total "game-changer" I thought it would be. I also tried taking bovine mammary, but I think it was making me sick. I have recently discovered that if I split the mammary capsule in half and take the halves hours apart, my system can tolerate it. I actually think that the bovine mammary (BM) is more powerful than the ovary because the subtle "euphoria" seems more noticeable. I can describe it as: you feel calm, mellow; a little horny (in the feminine sense), cozy, satisfied--you're happy with everything. Again, it's subtle, and doesn't happen all the time.

I have new erogenous zones all over, and I orgasm every day. My orgasms are very different now--more powerful and fulfilling. My breasts and nipples are now functioning sexual organs that help bring me to climax (all this is new to me). I think this is an important aspect of feminization and should be discussed. My face is also looking more feminine and youthful in small but noticeable ways.

So I will continue my program, and I will update you on my progress here. Currently I'm still doing my version of the Topical Cream Protocol (estrogen + progesterone + DHEA) plus BO, now switching over to BM (since mammaries are what we're trying to grow!) I don't know what my further progress will be, but I am hopeful.

I want to thank everyone on BN for your encouragement and support. This has been a very exciting journey for me, and I know that a lot of you can relate to that. Feminization has brought me a kind of deep-seated happiness I never thought was possible!

Love, Graceful

Photos:

1) I think the light hit me just right on this one.

2) We mostly talk about breasts here, but my rear has blossomed into a soft, round, full, feminine ass. I'm very happy about it.

3) With and without the bathing suit. My pelvic tilt is very noticeable here--I have lost 1" in height. Pelvic tilt (the backbone curving inward) helps give you feminine curves. This is my normal posture now.

4) My belly looks bigger when I sit on the bed like this--I've recently gained more weight but that's fine with me because you need more new fat to grow boobs. I've been eating as much high-calorie foods as I can. The estrogen in your system re-distributes your fat in feminine places. (The fat doesn't actually move; it's an analogy for a complex biological process). My thighs are so soft and shapely--my skin feels like I have an extra layer of fat under it. And look-- I have boobs! Yay!!!

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Started Yesterday :)

Tue, 24 Mar 2026 14:11:18 +0000

I already have mild gyno - I can feel a small cylinder almost behind each nipple. Given the sensitivity I have I was wondering about that.

I started 2 capsules of Barlowes PM yesterday - so 1100mg per day. I stopped testosterone therapy (naturally I do not make much) a month ago. My wife started a new medication and she has zero interest, but I am also on 5mg of Cialis daily which I will continue to take so I expect to keep full erections.

Just took my second dose! I cant wait to feel tenderness behind them. Last night my wife sucked on my nipples for an hour before she fell asleep. I also have a breast vacuum pump I will be using.

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I'm starting my journey (Bobbyyy personnal breast growth)

Thu, 26 Feb 2026 16:09:13 +0000

Hiiii
I finally started my journey on natural breast growth.
I bought online natureday herbal supplement breast growth liquid. If you already have used their products, I will be very happy to know what you think about it.

Anyway composition of the droppler :
- alcool (50-60%)
- deionized water
- saw Palmetto berry
- fennel seed
- fenugreek
- Dong Quai Root
- Blessed Thistle herb

The exact proportions are not mentioned unfortunately ? See attachment :

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Also here is my everyday program :

In a cup of water : 3 mid-full droplers
During my general preparation I heat my torso with a hot washcloth, massage it for 2 to 5 minutes, apply 1/4 droppler on each breast then massage for 2 to 5 minutes
Repeat at night (7 or 8 approximately)

I will post photos of my chest and what i'm felling every day if I can !
I hope that I will see results... ?

If you have advices, tips or anything to help i'll be grateful!
Also if you can indicate what other complements to add (that do not have antagonist effect) or infos on best programs it will be cool.

Oh

And here's my actual measurements (from a bra that fit) : 92,86,83,96,99,97 --> 95B (or 36B in UK)

Edits :
Edit 1 : Added photos
Edit 2 : Created the "follow-up section of the post" for the first 4 weeks (day per day and week per week). After this period, and if i still has enought products, i will do week by week
Edit 3 : Created a questions sections
Edit 4 : Added a section about personnal infos so you know more about me and what's best for me
Edit 5 : Changed thread name
Edit 6 : As per day 7 (01/03/2026), i stopped taking my product because it ran out (it dries out at a very rapid rate ) Will shop for better products...

My every day life :
SO in order for you to know more about me and my physiology (and help me on my journey) i will tell you more about me.
I live in a big city (Marseille) in France. I live in a zone where they're is not much pollution and a lot of vegetation.
Before this journey (and even longer before) i was kind of skinny (60Kg) and was doing rock climbing every week-end (so lots of sport).
During my studies i settled down and gained weight (plus i have friends who are addicts to sugar and coca-cola so it didn't help).
I now 68,1 Kg and i don't like it that way : what was muscle is still there but i now have a fat lower belly. I suppose it's not fat attached to the intestines because i don't have a big round belly so i think it will be easier to lose it
Anyway due to my current physical condition and the fact i'm still single and mostly real life friendless, i started working out and going out more. From now on i do like 10 Km of walk/jogging every week-end in the mountain next to my place. Also i try to do more that 1km of walk per day plus 20 minutes of jump rope and abdos. I go to a climbing club too but it's not too often.
Also i'm too much hairy, especially on my torso, shoulders, stomach and lower back so i will try to remove it or make it less visible.
As per my food habits, well i'm still a student and so my mother cook me nice meals with everything i want (meat, vegetables, etc...). For my workout i will try to lower the size of certain meals and add supplements if i feel a vitamin is lacking.
Physically, i always had a quite big butt (not enormous but it attracted attention of female friends) and rounder thights. For me i had masculine upper body and feminine lower body (minus all the hairs lol).

It's all i can think off, but i could extend this section in the future if i feel it's important.

Follow-up of my journey :
Day 01 (25/02/26) of treatment :
Measurements : 95B (92, 86, 83, 96, 99, 97) for 1m69 height and 68,1 Kg see photos :

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Feelings : first day was stressful, had dizziness from the stress and my personal schedule.
Physical sensations/changes : No modified feelings, no physical changes, no sensations.
Day 02 (26/02/26) of treatment : no changes, no feelings, no sensations
Day 03 (27/02/26) of treatment : no changes, no feelings, no sensations
Day 04 (28/02/26) of treatment : no changes, no feelings, no sensations
Day 05 (01/03/26) of treatment : no changes, no feelings, no sensations
Day 06 (02/03/26) of treatment : no changes, no feelings, no sensations
Day 07 (03/03/26) of treatment : no changes, no feelings, no sensations

Week 1 : after only one week of treatment, i already went out of product. I swear this bullsh** dries out even when the bottle is closed tightly ! i'm pretty angry at myself because i wanted to to this treatment for a month or two before going for something stronger. I still don't believe it would be this eventfull and bad ...
Anyway, here's the start of a hiatus until i find a treatment i like...

Week 2 :
Week 3 :
Week 4 :

My questions section :

Q1 : Does my treatment has best adsorption curve ? I fear that i will have a spick of products just after taking my dosage and the concentration curve will faid away before i take the next dosage. maybe lowering dosage but taking morning/lunch/evening is better ?

Q2 : What product do you recommend in addition to what i'm using ? Saw somewhere that lavender oil is good, is it right ?

Q3 : What are the interactions between the chemicals and with other hormones, products ? Like saw palmetto don't interact well with ,i don't know imagine, chocolate. It's to be able to maximixe the effectiveness of the product while lowering the number of supplements and methodology used.

Q4 : Does natureday or equivalent shops exist in Europe ? Because a product at 25e became 70 because of transportation and importation taxes

Q5 : Does sport lower effectiveness of breast growth ? What are the foods i need to avoid or eat more ?

Q6 : While on herbal supplements, do fat, skin and general body shift or is it only affecting breasts ? I have fat in my belly that i will be more to happy to transfert in my butt or breasts

Q7 : What hormonal, genetical or everything else test i can do to help me on my journey ?

Gathered infos (from replies, thread, external resources, etc...) :

Here i will try to gather everything i need so it will be helpful one for me personally and two for everyone like me who start and don't want to scroll through every thread for months.

Impatient

Wed, 25 Feb 2026 11:17:13 +0000

Hello dears,

Has anybody experience with or advice about the combination of Dong quai pueraria mirifica and ovarian glandular? I am trying to accellerate my breastforming cause it doesn't go as fast as I would like. Tips and trics are greately appreciated.

Question about nipple/areola development.

Tue, 24 Feb 2026 15:41:56 +0000

Hello,
I wanted to ask if there's anything to increase the size of my nipples and areolas, either in pill or cream form, and if anyone with experience can help me understand.
I'm quite confused. I've been reading various threads, but I'd like to confirm regarding fenugreek.
I'm currently using PM, within, and no more than, the recommended daily dose. I have to say that the "girls" have gotten bigger, but I'd like to start developing nipples and areolas as similar to those typically seen in women as possible.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can clarify my doubts or who can help me clarify my typical beginner's doubts.

breast underdevelopment (Grade IV tuberous / IGT) with normal hormones

Sat, 21 Feb 2026 18:18:49 +0000

I’m a 35-year-old cis woman with severe congenital breast underdevelopment consistent with Grade IV tuberous / IGT. Hormones and endocrine labs are within range; I am bottom heavy

DHT hormone still pending.

Labs & imaging

Hormones history tests lab:

https://j.top4top.io/p_3705iwt640.jpg
https://k.top4top.io/p_3705bwzn01.jpg

IGF1 cortisol test labs:

https://a.top4top.io/p_3705sjexn0.jpg
https://b.top4top.io/p_3705pi8nj1.jpg
Anatomy photos (right – reference)

https://c.top4top.io/p\_355496dyd0.jpg

Ultrasound:

https://k.top4top.io/p_3555xrcwg0.jpg

I’m specifically looking for non-surgical options and would appreciate guidance on:

• appropriate supplements

• topical creams/protocols

based on my anatomy and lab profile.

If conservative methods are unlikely in IGT/tuberous cases, I’d appreciate honest input.

My labs show low Free Androgen Index (~0.8) with high SHBG and normal estradiol/progesterone, suggesting low androgen bioavailability but adequate ovarian hormones.

This supports tissue-level resistance / IGT rather than systemic deficiency.

I’m specifically looking for supplements that support permanent glandular breast tissue growth (not temporary swelling).
Thank you.

My journey

Fri, 16 Jan 2026 18:10:18 +0000

Hi my names Andy and I have been pumping for about 3 years now and had some good progress so far might start using fenugreek cream in future but just wanted to show you all my current progress as its a great site.

I do have other traits such as wide hips, long eyelashes and general curvy figure compared to the average male so getting bigger breasts only makes sense to me. I enjoy chatting to people so open to messages as well.

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Tabular breast IV rare case

Tue, 30 Dec 2025 13:01:11 +0000

I’m a 35-year-old cis woman with severe congenital breast underdevelopment consistent with Grade IV tuberous breast / IGT, seeking non-surgical guidance only.

Key anatomy (right breast – worst side):
●Almost no sub-areolar tissue
●Severe areolar herniation (flattens when pressed inward)

●Left breast is slightly better but still underdeveloped.

I have never used hormones, herbs, or pumping devices.

Medical data:

●Breast ultrasound:
https://h.top4top.io/p_3614ptswy0.jpg

●Hormones within range:
https://h.top4top.io/p_34303ykyj2.jpg

●Estrogen fractions:
https://www2.0zz0.com/2025/05/23/07/608842333.png

●Anatomy photos (right breast – reference):
https://c.top4top.io/p_355496dyd0.jpg
https://g.top4top.io/p_3554qxilu4.jpg

●Recent hormone results yesterday (same cycle):
Tested ~4 days before my period (late luteal phase):

Estradiol (E2): 228.46 pg/mL

Progesterone: 16.44 ng/mL

Despite adequate luteal E2 and progesterone, breast tissue remains minimal with wide spacing and arrested development since puberty. This makes me suspect tissue-level non-responsiveness / constriction or ECM mechanics rather than systemic hormone deficiency.

Questions:
●Can normal late-luteal E2 + progesterone still coexist with poor breast development in your experience?

●Does this pattern suggest IGT / tuberous mechanics or tissue resistance rather than hormonal deficiency?

●Do very low-dose BHRT or micro-dose topical protocols (E2/Prog/DHEA) ever improve tissue responsiveness or soften the constriction ring?

●BO ,BM or Are any supplements or nutritional approaches worth considering for shape, not volume?
( are there any supplements that actually support permanent glandular breast tissue growth, not just temporary swelling or fat?)

●Would mechanical expansion make sense before or instead of systemic hormonal changes in cases like mine?

●From a safety perspective, which is more appropriate to try conservatively:

■EveBra (very low, sustained pressure), or

■Noogleberry (manual adjustable pressure)?

My priority is avoiding forward nipple pull and worsening herniation, while targeting the lower pole/sub-areolar area only. If conservative methods are unlikely to help, I would appreciate an honest opinion.

●Is dutch compelte test is important for my case?

Best way to start given my Anxiety

Mon, 08 Dec 2025 21:43:07 +0000

Dear whom it may concern,

I today tried to start my NBE journey.

I ordered Swanson's brand of the following:

Bovine Ovary (BO)
Pituitary Glandular (PG)
Uterine Glandular (UG) with BO in the Multi Glandular
Red Reishi
Zinc
Milk Thistle

I was to start with 2 of BO and 1 of rest and see how it goes, possibly increasing doses over time.
However, I am a nervous pill taker and passed out this morning after the Red Reishi and BO tablets.
I'm fine and solely think this was due to my anxiety. (At least I got a day off work)
Am probably going to take a month off from NBE though.

This is something that isn't too uncommon with me, having passed out after vaccines and taking medication in the past. Which is funny as I work in a Pharma adjacent industry.

Does anyone recommend any other application methods. Maybe something along the lines of grinding the pills down to make it easier.

Thanks in advance.

areolar herniation

Tue, 02 Dec 2025 18:00:16 +0000

Hello,
I’m a 35-year-old genetic female with Grade IV tubular breasts. My right breast has severe areolar herniation, almost no sub-areolar tissue, and a very tight constriction ring. I cannot do surgery, so I need the best non-surgical approach.
Before enlarging both breasts, I must correct the shape on the right side.
Based on my anatomy, could you tell me:
1. Which device is better for releasing the constriction ring and improving herniation: Evebra or Noogleberry?
2. What is the most reliable pumping method to build sub-areolar tissue (cup angle, positioning, routine)?
3. Should I start with the right breast only, or pump both for symmetry?
4. Should I combine pumping with a topical E2 + progesterone + DHEA protocol from the start?

Thank you.

New here

Sat, 29 Nov 2025 21:28:18 +0000

I am new here am wondering will the creams will help me get fuller ?

Can’t seem to upload says big size

https://ibb.co/GzrxD4k
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Tabular breast solution

Sun, 23 Nov 2025 18:54:54 +0000

Hello,

I am a 35-year-old woman with regular menstrual cycles and Grade IV tubular breasts (final stage). My breast ultrasound shows fibrous and glandular tissue, with a small fibroadenoma for follow-up. I plan to use the EVEBra device only.

My case is similar to the attached picture:

Could using the device alone achieve results similar to this picture? Have there been cases of Grade IV tubular breasts improving with EVEBra alone?

My goal is true development of both ducts and lobules. I understand that the most effective approaches generally include one of the following:

HRT (Estradiol + Progesterone)
Non-hormonal breast enhancement (NBE) supplements and protocols
Strong topical protocols like TCP (DHEA + Progesterone + stimulators)
EVEBra combined with a light hormonal program
Real bovine ovary (BO)

“Based on my ultrasound and hormone labs, can you outline a tailored breast-focused HRT and topical protocol , including doses, frequency, and adjustment steps? Also, as a genetic female with tubular breast IV, will this approach produce meaningful results, or are the outcomes different from (and not as complete as) those seen in trans women?”

Here are my recent results:
Ultrasound breast:
https://h.top4top.io/p_3614ptswy0.jpg
Hormones result:
https://h.top4top.io/p_34303ykyj2.jpg
Estrogen results: https://www2.0zz0.com/2025/05/23/07/608842333.png

Note:

I would like a plan and program designed for a gentic female with tabular breast IV, reflecting natural female physiology, not a transition protocol.

I haven’t started any treatment yet—neither herbal, hormonal, nor vacuum therapy. If you have any additional information or tips, I would greatly appreciate it.

Program Assistance/Clarity

Mon, 10 Nov 2025 01:35:26 +0000

Sub-subject note/clarity: Starting Back Ups Full-Time (Before Deciding On Doing Actual HRT)

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Hihii!!!

As the title states, I haves done herbal based approaches in the past; as a way to explore who I was physically and mentally (in a much lighter way). After a long number of years of talking with a therapist, meeting and talking to others, and understanding myself more; I've decided on starting back on a full-time, regular herbal based approach before fully stepping in and continuing with HRT.

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Also to note: I am not starting this program up until I have tested/frozen sperm, as unsure if I would want kids at all (but if I ever do change the feeling, then have the option even after going through everything). If it shows bad results, wouldn't change how I feel and would still continue on withs the plan & transitioning.

Would be able to start up either around start or middle of December if everything goes good & quick.

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Goals (in no particular order):

Softer skin
Body fat distribution (i.e. to hips, thighs, & butt)
Mental changes (i.e. mood, emotions)
Thinning of body & facial hair (sadly naturally hairy, so have a feeling this will 1000% need to be paired with laser/other approaches as well). Already a super pain to take care of/handle.
Hair regrowth if possible (unfortunate draw from one side of my family that I did receive; as it is slowly starting)
Orgasm fluid changes (i.e. turn clear, hence doing the freezing & stuff before)
And of course breast growth (alongside the butt, thighs, & hips :3)

Overall is to just align myself with who I see myself as (hence the eventual move to actual HRT).

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Program Items Selection:

As such, I have been utilizing a bunch of the informative posts provided on this site, as well as, some of the personal programs people have been posting in order to get an idea as to what products to utilize, as well as, dosing & frequency of taking them.

As from Lotus' posts, once doing a full plan I should at least have the following:

Quote:from jacp114:
1 estrogenic herb
1 pro-hormone
1-proarmatase
1potentiator (vitamins/minerals, etc.)
1 anti-androgen

With this in mind, I have utilized the following pages as a starting point for picking items out:

https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=17830
https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=17416
https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=21689

From here, I ended up looking at these items for a full-time program (until actual HRT):

Estrogenic Herb: PM (Barlowe's Herbal - pill)
Pro-Hormone: Fish Oil & Vitamin D3 (Pill, Tincture)
Pro-Aromatase: White Peony (Tincture)
Protentiators: Dandelion Root (Tincture)
Anti-Androgen: Reishi Mushroom (Tincture)

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Dosing:

As I'm more-so unfamiliar with the amounts to take, I looked into a few programs of other users that they have posed here. They can be found in the links below.

1) Maze (14-08-2021 #5): https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=30277&pid=217355&highlight=dandelion+root+dose#pid217355
2) Lotus (27-05-2014 #65, Larana & Lotus) https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=17416&page=7
3) Lotus (26-09-2013 #1) https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=17436
4) Kanony (14-07-2023 #1) https://www.breastnexum.com/showthread.php?tid=31387

Also to note: Yes, I will absolutely go slow (i.e. not jumping right into 2000-3000mg PM, etc.) Will stick to the bottle for daily allotment in certain areas & only adjust once everything has been started (adjusting one item at a time). Please see dosing plan below.

Based upon these posts, I would take the current maximum amount each day (starting point):

PM: 1000mg per day (2 pills/day)
Vitamin D3: 12 drops per day (1 serving is 4 drops, each containing 10mcg or 400 IU according to label)

Unsure about this one, please let me know if this needs to be adjusted
Daily limit on label says 4 drops up to 5x a day

White Peony: 3ml per day (based on discussion I saw in Dosing reference 2 between Larana & Lotus)

Daily limit on label says 0.7-1ml 4x a day. 1m is about 970mg.
Let me know if this should change.

Dandelion Root: 1000 mg per day

Daily limit on label says 0.7-1ml 4x a day. However saw people's plans that were lower. Hence, hit the starting dose here. Let me know if this should change.

Reishi Mushroom: 1200mg/day

Again, daily limit on label says 0.7-1ml 4x a day. Saw a reply from Lotus in the dosing reference 2 for the swanson vitamin one to take it 2x a day (serving size being 2 capsules @ 600mg per capsule on the bottle). Let me know if this should change.

I would take this maximum amount over three periods each day (4 hour increments), as captured by a write-up by lotus:

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Hormones are released every 90 minutes, the binding of receptors takes 30-45 minutes upon activation. The process of supplementing should match that cycle (e.g. supplement every 4 hrs to correspond with the cycle rather than taking all at once, or in large dose).

So essentially as a starting point:
A) One PM pill twice a day (plan Morning & Evening)
B) 4 Drops Vitamin D3 three times a day (Morning, Mid-Day, & Evening)
C) 1ml White Peony three times a day (Morning, Mid-Day, & Evening)
D) 10 drops Dandelion Root three times a day (Morning, Mid-Day, & Evening)
E) 12 drops Reishi Mushroom three times a day. (Morning, Mid-Day, & Evening)

Again, please let me know if I should be taking something at a different time of the day.

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Additional Questions:

1) I have seen plans of people utilizing Progesterone Cream. Is this something I should be utilizing right at the beginning of the program? Or introduce it after being on the program?

Additionally, would this item replace something in the program? If so, what would it replace?

2) Additionally, I have seen people use BO compared to PM. What is the main difference between these two items? Does one product work better in comparison to the other (or is it simply person to person)?
3) I understand/read that PM can be hard on the liver. Is there any other items that can support the liver while going through this program (i.e. before going on actual HRT)?
4) What dosing should be taken for fish oil during this type of regiment? Or does Vitamin D3 suffice? Additionally, does Vitamin D3 need to be taken alongside any other items?

Thankies to everyone! ^_^

Haven't posted in awhile

Sat, 13 Sep 2025 22:32:20 +0000

My tits have grown

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