[Beth14]

That was one of the reasons I got the implants. Wanted both

[prostatenipple]

I think that you can have both (but maybe after you finish changing). I've seen enough porn that you can tell it is possible.

I think crucially, you can't have both while you are trying to grow your breasts.

As a (bad?) analogy, it's like directing all your energy and resources to the breast growth construction project, and that diverts resources away from your male genitals.

[prostatenipple]

I can't really provide much insight on the balance of your stack, but I think adding a bio-identical progesterone source would do a lot more at this stage for your breast growth. After budding, it should help boost overall fullness and size.

I second this.

Once budded, you probably need more progesterone.
Everything I read about it says it's needed for the female breast shape - the side branching.

[Heaven's Night]

I think that you can have both (but maybe after you finish changing). I've seen enough porn that you can tell it is possible.

I think crucially, you can't have both while you are trying to grow your breasts.

As a (bad?) analogy, it's like directing all your energy and resources to the breast growth construction project, and that diverts resources away from your male genitals.

No you can't, not really. Trans women who do porn typically have implants and they very often pop certain performance pills. But full on male function withHRT feminised body just doesn't quite work like that. Porn is all make believe for horny dudes to pour their money into. Its quite not that simple, there's always trickery involved in some way.

Of course, grow boobs, then stop hormone treatment to retain function can appear as if it works out but that would be counterproductive to the achieved body changes as a lot of it depends on hormonal upkeep. 

What comes to prog, its essential, but the reponse to it is individual based on genetics etc. Some people don't get much out it and others have breast volume balloon like crazy. But for full breast maturation, P4 is absolutely on the list of essentials right after estrogens.

[prostatenipple]

Thanks. Really helpful.
I want to get some growth before I get put on T injections.
I have a bunch of PG cream, will want to get more. Put 120mg in the AM today. 6 Pumps.
I think you said 200mg per day?

[Heaven's Night]

200mg is what I do either boofed or topically as part of TCP, it works fine, especially if its boosted with something. (Vitex + EPO combo, RC extract, olive oil shot etc. are some to look into for making the best our of prog no matter which method you take it as.)

Lotus said that 300mg per day as a combined method of boofed, oral and topical would be the most optimal approach, but less works fine. 100mg+ from cream is around where it starts to work really well but more is better.

[prostatenipple]

Thanks.
It's very expensive. Just ordered 4 pump-canisters of Now PG cream. And a bunch of PM capsules from Pueraria Mirifica UK.