[Natasha]

Hey,
I've been lurking on this site for quite some time now and I think I understand a bit what I can expect from each supplement.

Hence, I am just starting today with :
- PM 700mg extract 10:1
- SP 500mg extract 20:1 (incl 45% fatty acids ~ 225mg)
- Pygeum 200mg extract 2:1 (incl 10% sterols ~ 20mg)

My objective is 
- mild feminisation (softer skin mostly, tender breast if I'm lucky..)
- better hair health with less receding line and better density
- less body hair

What do you think about that dosage? Should I expect something else I might Have forgot?

Thank you for your kind advice 
Natasha

[AliceDydro]

Extracts as opposed to pills?

You could start with SP and see how it affects you before adding another (PM, etc).

[ThatChicaMila]

Very interested to see how this goes, I'm basically looking for the same thing. Larger hips/booty, softer skin, less body hair, thinner, MAYBE some breast fullness and definite would appreciate more sensitivity there. Also trying to keep libido in check. Was taking 250mg pm and 515mg wp daily for a week but chickened out because I thought I was losing my libido. However I am using Estradiol cream on my face and PM cream on my booty. The estradiol (trace amount) on the face seems to work wonders. Keep me posted on your progress!!

[Natasha]

As far as I would love fat redistribution, I am very objective about it and know very well it won't happen unless I drastically change something in the recipe.


All I take is in pill shape. I mentioned the extract level, because I think it's interesting to compare them with the level of fatty acid it brings.


Anyway, it's only been a couple of days now and obviously nothing happened just yet.

[RedWolf]

 I mentioned the extract level, because I think it's interesting to compare them with the level of fatty acid it brings.

I think people are interested because it has seemed to be the case that extracts don't work as well as the pure root.

[Natasha]

I think people are interested because it has seemed to be the case that extracts don't work as well as the pure root.

You think? 
I would have thought that extract have more concentration because they use more product than what is in the pill.

[Natasha]

Here some updates

Height = 182 cm
Age 49
From 26 Dec 2025 to 10 Feb 2026, my daily intake was:

- PM 1400 mg
- Saw Palmetto 500 mg
- Pygeum 200 mg
- (Isovamp x2)
  + Red Clover 200 mg
  + Passiflore 250  mg
  + Agnocasto 100 mg
  + Garnissia 200 mg
  + Kudzu 160 mg
  + Cimicifuga 100 mg

here my improvement :
Weight 82 > 82.8 kg
Waist 90 > 86 cm
Hip 103 > 105.7 cm
Underbust 93.6 > 94.1 cm
Chest 105.5 > 104.9 cm
Thigh 57 > 58.6 cm
Arm 36 > 31 cm

To work on my body hair, I also started to home-IPL my whole body.

My body loved this cocktail. It has been enough to start some fat distribution and muscle mass reduction. However, even if I was happy with the results, I felt I hit a plateau and wanted to continue shaping my body.

As I did not want to grow boobs (still don't) and afraid my body was taking phyto all too well for my own sake, I looked into some alternatives.

What I found is chemical drugs might help with my objective.

Therefore, I quit SP and PY and replaced them with Dutasteride 0,5mg.
I kept PM 1400mg
I halved "isovamp" in order to keep:
(Isovamp x1)
  + Red Clover 100 mg
  + Passiflore 125  mg
  + Agnocasto 50 mg
  + Garnissia 100 mg
  + Kudzu 80 mg
  + Cimicifuga 50 mg
I added :
- estrogenic gel 0,6g
- raloxifene 30 mg

Oh girl.. I love this mix.
Today March 8,  despite 1 week of food and drink excessive intake,
my measurements are (compared to beginning)
Weight 82 > 84.4 kg
Waist 90 > 86 cm
Hip 103 > 106.5 cm
Underbust 93.6 > 95 cm
Chest 105.5 > 106.5 cm
Thigh 57 > 60 cm
Arm 36 > 30.2 cm
Last week, my waist circumference was 85.8 cm

It may not look that big on picture but I feel the change and the measurements confirm all that.

Also, this cocktail mixed with IPL had a very very good outcome on my skin. My hair (head) is also a bit thicker already and I hope for even better result in time.